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		<title>By: Tim Roediger</title>
		<link>http://www.youthvanguard.com/2007/06/09/week-by-week-leader-training/comment-page-1/#comment-97</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Roediger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 02:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your encouragement with the blog Duke.</description>
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		<title>By: Duke</title>
		<link>http://www.youthvanguard.com/2007/06/09/week-by-week-leader-training/comment-page-1/#comment-96</link>
		<dc:creator>Duke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 07:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m really enjoying this great youth blog, thanks guys. &lt;br/&gt;I&#039;ve just moved church, started college and also started a new yth gp at my new church, apart from only having myself and one other, what i miss having from the yth min at my old church (st faiths narrabeen) has been the midweek leaders meeting. We met for an hour on wednesday evening (6:30-7:30)(most leaders had bible study that night straight after). It was great to train the leaders (~25) and plan the upcoming night and pray. &lt;br/&gt;Our yth min came up with his own curriculum and we worked our way through that each week.&lt;br/&gt;If you want more info just ask and i&#039;ll see what i can do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m really enjoying this great youth blog, thanks guys. <br />I&#8217;ve just moved church, started college and also started a new yth gp at my new church, apart from only having myself and one other, what i miss having from the yth min at my old church (st faiths narrabeen) has been the midweek leaders meeting. We met for an hour on wednesday evening (6:30-7:30)(most leaders had bible study that night straight after). It was great to train the leaders (~25) and plan the upcoming night and pray. <br />Our yth min came up with his own curriculum and we worked our way through that each week.<br />If you want more info just ask and i&#8217;ll see what i can do.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Roediger</title>
		<link>http://www.youthvanguard.com/2007/06/09/week-by-week-leader-training/comment-page-1/#comment-90</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Roediger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 23:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m getting a few notes and things together.  You&#039;ll seem more posted in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m getting a few notes and things together.  You&#8217;ll seem more posted in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.youthvanguard.com/2007/06/09/week-by-week-leader-training/comment-page-1/#comment-87</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 23:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how&#039;s this all going?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how&#8217;s this all going?</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.youthvanguard.com/2007/06/09/week-by-week-leader-training/comment-page-1/#comment-75</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 07:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Dave, what books would you suggest that have chapters that can be read and discussed in half an hour?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;i haven&#039;t done it much... i write a bit of my own stuff...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;but we&#039;ve used stuff from tim hawkins on life of the leader.  from leaders that last.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;i think all of the following books have chapters that can easily be read and briefly discussed in 30 minutes:&lt;br/&gt;Tim Hawkins: Fruit that will last &amp; Leaders that will last.&lt;br/&gt;Doug Fields: Purpose-Driven Youth Ministry (and maybe some of the chapters from &#039;your first two years&#039;)&lt;br/&gt;Al Stewart et al: no guts no glory&lt;br/&gt;Moser: changing the world through effective youth ministry (wouldn&#039;t use the creative one for training - go ideas... but not worth using as a training material - i find youth evangelism a little disappointing - but i&#039;m sure there&#039;s some good stuff in there to throw around)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;i don&#039;t agree with every single thing in each of the above books... but i think it&#039;s good to help people read things critically.  but on the whole... each of those books has some great stuff.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;i have a stack more of books... but the above would probably be the ones i&#039;d use most.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;is that helpful?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Dave, what books would you suggest that have chapters that can be read and discussed in half an hour?</i></p>
<p>i haven&#8217;t done it much&#8230; i write a bit of my own stuff&#8230;</p>
<p>but we&#8217;ve used stuff from tim hawkins on life of the leader.  from leaders that last.</p>
<p>i think all of the following books have chapters that can easily be read and briefly discussed in 30 minutes:<br />Tim Hawkins: Fruit that will last &#038; Leaders that will last.<br />Doug Fields: Purpose-Driven Youth Ministry (and maybe some of the chapters from &#8216;your first two years&#8217;)<br />Al Stewart et al: no guts no glory<br />Moser: changing the world through effective youth ministry (wouldn&#8217;t use the creative one for training &#8211; go ideas&#8230; but not worth using as a training material &#8211; i find youth evangelism a little disappointing &#8211; but i&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s some good stuff in there to throw around)</p>
<p>i don&#8217;t agree with every single thing in each of the above books&#8230; but i think it&#8217;s good to help people read things critically.  but on the whole&#8230; each of those books has some great stuff.</p>
<p>i have a stack more of books&#8230; but the above would probably be the ones i&#8217;d use most.</p>
<p>is that helpful?</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.youthvanguard.com/2007/06/09/week-by-week-leader-training/comment-page-1/#comment-74</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 07:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;How do you not have a weekly meeting?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;i think it might be part of being big???  it&#039;s difficult to get everyone together.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;we have lots of commuters... so before youth is tricky - we have lots of leaders who run small groups before youth.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;we do have 5-10minute meetings afterwards... but i&#039;m conscious of not making them go too late into the night!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;our monthly meetings have been great.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;spend some time together. year 7-12. and then split into juniors 7-9, seniors 10-12.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i><br />How do you not have a weekly meeting?</i></p>
<p>i think it might be part of being big???  it&#8217;s difficult to get everyone together.</p>
<p>we have lots of commuters&#8230; so before youth is tricky &#8211; we have lots of leaders who run small groups before youth.</p>
<p>we do have 5-10minute meetings afterwards&#8230; but i&#8217;m conscious of not making them go too late into the night!</p>
<p>our monthly meetings have been great.</p>
<p>spend some time together. year 7-12. and then split into juniors 7-9, seniors 10-12.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Roediger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Roediger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 03:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Fact 4: you can always do a chapter a week from some good youth ministry books. can easily read and discuss in 30 minutes.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Dave, what books would you suggest that have chapters that can be read and discussed in half an hour?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Fact 4: you can always do a chapter a week from some good youth ministry books. can easily read and discuss in 30 minutes.</i></p>
<p>Dave, what books would you suggest that have chapters that can be read and discussed in half an hour?</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Roediger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Roediger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 03:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;it must be a privilege having a weekly meeting&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;How do you not have a weekly meeting?  At the moment we meet half an hour before youth group starts to work out any final details and pray together.   I don&#039;t think youth group would really work without it.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;My intention is to change our weekly meeting from half an hour to an hour to allow some traing time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>it must be a privilege having a weekly meeting</i></p>
<p>How do you not have a weekly meeting?  At the moment we meet half an hour before youth group starts to work out any final details and pray together.   I don&#8217;t think youth group would really work without it.</p>
<p>My intention is to change our weekly meeting from half an hour to an hour to allow some traing time.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 07:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great post!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Fact 1: roger that&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Fact 2: good idea.  it must be a privilege having a weekly meeting.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Fact 3: okay&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Fact 4: you can always do a chapter  a week from some good youth ministry books.  can easily read and discuss in 30 minutes.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;i&gt;The plan is to gather a few people and together write one year of youth ministry training material that can be used in half hour blocks at a weekly youth leaders meeting.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;sounds good.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;i&gt;What do you think of the idea?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Great idea.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;i&gt;If such a resource existed, would you use it?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;d be interested to see it.  Other than taking some ideas, I wouldn&#039;t use it.  We don&#039;t have weekly meetings.  Ours are monthly.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;i&gt;What areas do you think should be covered the training material?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Or perhaps you have some resources you have already developed that could be contributed?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;---------------&lt;br/&gt;Brief outline of what I&#039;m writing:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;3 years worth of material.&lt;br/&gt;Although it could be done in 1.5 years.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;we have 4 sunday arvos in a row for training 4 times a year.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;i encourage people to do 2 a year.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;101 - intro material.  life of leader.  role of leader&lt;br/&gt;102 - teaching Bible to small group&lt;br/&gt;201 - follow-up, work with parents + programming&lt;br/&gt;202 - teaching Bible to large groups&lt;br/&gt;301 - understanding teenagers&lt;br/&gt;302 - masters - going the long haul - and leading leaders.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;progress&lt;br/&gt;101 - written, run twice&lt;br/&gt;102 - written, run once&lt;br/&gt;201 - writing - running&lt;br/&gt;202 - part written - run term 4&lt;br/&gt;301 - outline done&lt;br/&gt;302 - rough outline done&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;i&#039;m keen for our material to be specific to our context... but stax of it is applicable to others.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;tim let me know if you want a more detailed ooutline of the series and i&#039;ll email it.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;peaceout</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great post!</p>
<p>Fact 1: roger that</p>
<p>Fact 2: good idea.  it must be a privilege having a weekly meeting.</p>
<p>Fact 3: okay</p>
<p>Fact 4: you can always do a chapter  a week from some good youth ministry books.  can easily read and discuss in 30 minutes.</p>
<p><i>The plan is to gather a few people and together write one year of youth ministry training material that can be used in half hour blocks at a weekly youth leaders meeting.</i></p>
<p>sounds good.</p>
<p><i>What do you think of the idea?</i></p>
<p>Great idea.</p>
<p><i>If such a resource existed, would you use it?</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;d be interested to see it.  Other than taking some ideas, I wouldn&#8217;t use it.  We don&#8217;t have weekly meetings.  Ours are monthly.</p>
<p><i>What areas do you think should be covered the training material?</p>
<p>Or perhaps you have some resources you have already developed that could be contributed?</i><br />&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />Brief outline of what I&#8217;m writing:</p>
<p>3 years worth of material.<br />Although it could be done in 1.5 years.</p>
<p>we have 4 sunday arvos in a row for training 4 times a year.</p>
<p>i encourage people to do 2 a year.</p>
<p>101 &#8211; intro material.  life of leader.  role of leader<br />102 &#8211; teaching Bible to small group<br />201 &#8211; follow-up, work with parents + programming<br />202 &#8211; teaching Bible to large groups<br />301 &#8211; understanding teenagers<br />302 &#8211; masters &#8211; going the long haul &#8211; and leading leaders.</p>
<p>progress<br />101 &#8211; written, run twice<br />102 &#8211; written, run once<br />201 &#8211; writing &#8211; running<br />202 &#8211; part written &#8211; run term 4<br />301 &#8211; outline done<br />302 &#8211; rough outline done</p>
<p>i&#8217;m keen for our material to be specific to our context&#8230; but stax of it is applicable to others.</p>
<p>tim let me know if you want a more detailed ooutline of the series and i&#8217;ll email it.</p>
<p>peaceout</p>
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